At times like these, it’s hard to feel as though there is humanity in the world. Just when you thought times couldn’t get any tougher amid the global COVID-19 pandemic, things go from bad to simply horrific.

We are of course talking about the death of US man George Floyd in Minneapolis last week and the protests that have followed.

This morning Kyle and Jackie O spoke with an Australian man, Vadem Dale, who is working as a police officer on the frontline of the deadly protests that have engulfed dozens of cities across the US.

Originally from Melbourne, Dale moved to Louie-ville, Kentucky, to be with his wife over a decade ago, and has worked within the police force for more than 11 years.

But now he is considering leaving the force altogether after witnessing horrifying acts, like the death of Mr Floyd.

Having worked his entire career to stop things like this from happening, Mr Dale said it breaks his heart to see it still occurring in 2020.

“I’ve said it for fifteen years over here. No one hates a bad cop more than a good cop,” Mr Dale said. “I mean we can’t stand bad cops. We work so hard to create relationships with people and you can have a few bad apples ruin it for everyone. And really that’s what’s happening right now.


“We’re being painted under this blanket that all cops that are white are racist and that’s heartbreaking,” he continued.

“There’s so much hatred in this country right now and it’s bloody sad. It breaks my heart. I’ve loved this career… What I’m witnessing it breaks my heart. It absolutely breaks my heart.”

“This is the first time in ten plus years that I’ve questioned, am I in the right career path anymore?” Mr Dale said.

Mr Dale continued to speak with us about how he thinks we can continue on from this and what we need to do in order to be better in the future.

“It’s not going to just happen overnight,” he said. “We’ve got to come together and we’ve just got to be equal. Love each other and figure this sh*t out because it’s enough. It’s enough.”

Hear more from our chat with US Police Officer Vadem Dale in the podcast below.